Submitted by Andris (not verified) on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 10:16.
National Army's commitment is obviously accepted by the National Parliament of the Membering State of the Alliance only for the sake of democracy in Afghanistan. And there may be discussions on preventive measures that the national government of The Republic of Afghanistan is taking to safeguard and protect their own people, but ISAF soldiers are there not only for safety. They are there to raise prosperity of Afghan nation so that the state can satisfy the needs of their own people among the other nations of muslim or islamic world. And that is true that in the respect to diplomacy of governmental affairs the politicians of Afghanistan and countries alike it are more self orientated than ussual. By all means that is the great job that you are doing, but the harder one as well.
Truly,
Andris
Submitted by David H Lewis (not verified) on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 16:28.
I am sad to hear you locking yourself into a long term commitment in Afghanistan with your macho declaration that you are "not a quitter" for now you have invested your personal pride in achieving a military solution, which after 8 long years is more remote then ever. Sometimes one has to confront uncomfortable facts and act realistically
- over half the carnage of WW2 happened because Hitler would not quit or negotiate after the clear message of Stalingrad and other major disasters. In any case I doubt the European (or American) electorate will give you the luxury of an endless blank cheque in Afghanistan. So, realistically, you have to "win" or quit DURING YOUR WATCH as NATO Sec Gen. There is simply NO prospect of a "win" so you MUST face the unpalatable task of quitting with as much dignity and grace as you can muster.
With respect, I have to repeat, NATO has no business being there in the first place (Its initial invasion was extremely ill advised and a retrospective UN mandate is worthless). Its presence has not only failed every stated objective but has been actively counter-productive and made things worse!
Finally may I ask yet again about your promised "investigation" into NATO's Kunduz civilian massacre. I have requested this twice on your Facebook and now here. Is there actually an "investigation" in progress? If so, when may we hear of it?
I am sorry to be so discouraging about your hoped for "victory" in Afghanistan but you MUST act realistically. You HAVE TO QUIT ASAP!
Kind regards, David H Lewis
Je ne suis pas un lâcheur - ni l'OTAN fuir notre engagement à assurer la sécurité et la stabilité en Afghanistan. L'OTAN et les troupes de l'ISAF sont pas des «envahisseurs illégaux». Mai-je vous rappeler que notre présence en Afghanistan est basée sur un mandat du Conseil de sécurité des Nations unies.
Submitted by Pran Kaul (not verified) on Wed, 21/10/2009 - 09:26.
Best regards to Mr Lewis for his views and to Mr Rasmussen for his crisp response.
democracy has arrived in AfG or should we say is arriving in AfG. I don't think dreaded Talibans are going out of the window just because democracy is arrived. Democracy is a sure process to defeat the destructive forces but this may take time. So it will be sucidal to withdraw forces prematurely and neutralise all that has been achieved at the cost of lives from both sides and the destruction that is part of such operations.
Let us support allied forces for what they are doing in most difficult situations and help rebuild the AfG and its institutions. Let us do what we can to give AfG people their right to dignified lives.
Submitted by Anders Fogh Rasmussen (not verified) on Tue, 13/10/2009 - 19:35.
Dear Mr. Lewis
I am not a quitter – nor is NATO running away from our commitment to providing security and stability in Afghanistan. The NATO and ISAF troops are not “illegal invaders”. May I remind you that our presence in Afghanistan is based on a mandate from the UN Security Council.
Submitted by Alessandro (not verified) on Mon, 14/09/2009 - 20:45.
I strongly appreciate your will of talking directly in case of such incidents, that's the only way to show we are acting just to defend Afghan people against Taliban terrorists.
I toughly support your action and your way of doing.
Submitted by David H Lewis (not verified) on Mon, 14/09/2009 - 18:08.
You appear to be a decent and humane person so it is sad to find you defending NATO's appalling record of slaughtering defenseless Afghan civilians. You are new to the job and so you are perhaps unfamiliar with NATO's formulaic responses to these atrocities. Your comments follow their all too familiar pattern and appear to have been written by a Jamie Shea or Mark Laity (both "heroes" of NATO's orgy of slaughtering Serbian civilians):
1.) Fudge the facts, "we do not know exactly what happened". Yes you do! Yet again NATO has slain civilians. There is no escaping that bleak fact!
2.) Issue an empty apology and promise an investigation and/or new strategy. This has been going on for years and nothing changes! Civilians are still routinely slaughtered by gung-ho NATO airstrikes. And if this latest outrage represents a 90% improvement, as you say, then how bad were things before?
3.) Attempt to blacken the dreaded "Taliban". They are not the ones "delivering the ordnance" on innocent civilians, as the incompetent US Airforce callously describes its bombing role. You might recall too, that however unsavoury, The Taliban were the legitimate, internationally recognised government of AfG (supported by the likes of your Madelaine Albright). NATO, obediently flying in America's coat tails, are the illegal invaders.
In short, NATO has had ample opportunity to "fix" AfG but after all these years, there is now no good outcome for NATO in AfG other than to quit as quickly as possible - or will you drag this on for another 8, 10 or 20 bloody and pointless years? The recent AfG election is your golden opportunity to declare democracy has arrived and to get out ASAP. Any more delay only invites further disgrace and humiliation for NATO not to mention more civilian massacres. I am sure in your heart of hearts you recognise this so I earnestly hope you will show the appropriate leadership at this difficult time.
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National Army's commitment is
National Army's commitment is obviously accepted by the National Parliament of the Membering State of the Alliance only for the sake of democracy in Afghanistan. And there may be discussions on preventive measures that the national government of The Republic of Afghanistan is taking to safeguard and protect their own people, but ISAF soldiers are there not only for safety. They are there to raise prosperity of Afghan nation so that the state can satisfy the needs of their own people among the other nations of muslim or islamic world. And that is true that in the respect to diplomacy of governmental affairs the politicians of Afghanistan and countries alike it are more self orientated than ussual. By all means that is the great job that you are doing, but the harder one as well.
Truly,
Andris
I am sad to hear you locking
I am sad to hear you locking yourself into a long term commitment in Afghanistan with your macho declaration that you are "not a quitter" for now you have invested your personal pride in achieving a military solution, which after 8 long years is more remote then ever. Sometimes one has to confront uncomfortable facts and act realistically
- over half the carnage of WW2 happened because Hitler would not quit or negotiate after the clear message of Stalingrad and other major disasters. In any case I doubt the European (or American) electorate will give you the luxury of an endless blank cheque in Afghanistan. So, realistically, you have to "win" or quit DURING YOUR WATCH as NATO Sec Gen. There is simply NO prospect of a "win" so you MUST face the unpalatable task of quitting with as much dignity and grace as you can muster.
With respect, I have to repeat, NATO has no business being there in the first place (Its initial invasion was extremely ill advised and a retrospective UN mandate is worthless). Its presence has not only failed every stated objective but has been actively counter-productive and made things worse!
Finally may I ask yet again about your promised "investigation" into NATO's Kunduz civilian massacre. I have requested this twice on your Facebook and now here. Is there actually an "investigation" in progress? If so, when may we hear of it?
I am sorry to be so discouraging about your hoped for "victory" in Afghanistan but you MUST act realistically. You HAVE TO QUIT ASAP!
Kind regards, David H Lewis
Je ne suis pas un lâcheur -
Je ne suis pas un lâcheur - ni l'OTAN fuir notre engagement à assurer la sécurité et la stabilité en Afghanistan. L'OTAN et les troupes de l'ISAF sont pas des «envahisseurs illégaux». Mai-je vous rappeler que notre présence en Afghanistan est basée sur un mandat du Conseil de sécurité des Nations unies.
Best regards to Mr Lewis for
Best regards to Mr Lewis for his views and to Mr Rasmussen for his crisp response.
democracy has arrived in AfG or should we say is arriving in AfG. I don't think dreaded Talibans are going out of the window just because democracy is arrived. Democracy is a sure process to defeat the destructive forces but this may take time. So it will be sucidal to withdraw forces prematurely and neutralise all that has been achieved at the cost of lives from both sides and the destruction that is part of such operations.
Let us support allied forces for what they are doing in most difficult situations and help rebuild the AfG and its institutions. Let us do what we can to give AfG people their right to dignified lives.
Dear Mr. Lewis I am not a
Dear Mr. Lewis
I am not a quitter – nor is NATO running away from our commitment to providing security and stability in Afghanistan. The NATO and ISAF troops are not “illegal invaders”. May I remind you that our presence in Afghanistan is based on a mandate from the UN Security Council.
Best regards,
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
I strongly appreciate your
I strongly appreciate your will of talking directly in case of such incidents, that's the only way to show we are acting just to defend Afghan people against Taliban terrorists.
I toughly support your action and your way of doing.
Don't give up
Regards(or "saluti" in Italian)
Alessandro
You appear to be a decent and
You appear to be a decent and humane person so it is sad to find you defending NATO's appalling record of slaughtering defenseless Afghan civilians. You are new to the job and so you are perhaps unfamiliar with NATO's formulaic responses to these atrocities. Your comments follow their all too familiar pattern and appear to have been written by a Jamie Shea or Mark Laity (both "heroes" of NATO's orgy of slaughtering Serbian civilians):
1.) Fudge the facts, "we do not know exactly what happened". Yes you do! Yet again NATO has slain civilians. There is no escaping that bleak fact!
2.) Issue an empty apology and promise an investigation and/or new strategy. This has been going on for years and nothing changes! Civilians are still routinely slaughtered by gung-ho NATO airstrikes. And if this latest outrage represents a 90% improvement, as you say, then how bad were things before?
3.) Attempt to blacken the dreaded "Taliban". They are not the ones "delivering the ordnance" on innocent civilians, as the incompetent US Airforce callously describes its bombing role. You might recall too, that however unsavoury, The Taliban were the legitimate, internationally recognised government of AfG (supported by the likes of your Madelaine Albright). NATO, obediently flying in America's coat tails, are the illegal invaders.
In short, NATO has had ample opportunity to "fix" AfG but after all these years, there is now no good outcome for NATO in AfG other than to quit as quickly as possible - or will you drag this on for another 8, 10 or 20 bloody and pointless years? The recent AfG election is your golden opportunity to declare democracy has arrived and to get out ASAP. Any more delay only invites further disgrace and humiliation for NATO not to mention more civilian massacres. I am sure in your heart of hearts you recognise this so I earnestly hope you will show the appropriate leadership at this difficult time.
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